hmm not sure why we have to go in to this creator vs science debate ( may be its a Pope/Reformation thing in west) they both can co-exist its not a OR thing , i guess problem is intelligent/critical thinking people are busy in these debates while Capitalist are using these tools and power that science has provided to create a divided society which is depressed, consisitute of have and have and have not and on the verge of climate catastrophe.