fighting oppressions and fighting for freedom is a basic human trait , you do not need religion to…

3 min readJan 19, 2024

fighting oppressions and fighting for freedom is a basic human trait , you do not need religion to justify it ( as can be seen in history all across)

Problem in Palestine is the same old colonization/oppressions idea to occupy resource but guise it with under Judaism/Jewish protection and safety

wrote a comment some where , applies here , incase if you want to contemplate more

Plan from the beginning to not find peace so for e.g Ben Gurion

( https://www.progressiveisrael.org/ben-gurions-notorious-quotes-their-polemical-uses-abuses/)

“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.”

— David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”

David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

there are numerous Jews write , historian , thinker who has books and talk about the subject , please also refer to them ( all of them could not be lying)

understand it’s hard to change one views especially with Jews history, but I think few right questions might help.

1) Why US support Israel with around 4B every year , do you see any example in history where a country serve another ( which is better in term of health care, education , food quality) while it has homelessness, education debt etc , what is the purpose?

2) Its Christian who are the one (mostly) who persecuted Jews (because of Jesus crucifixion) what change in last 200 year or so that they love Israel and Jews more than they themselves

3) Does Peace serve US weapon Industry or Geo-politics in the area.

4) Why people like Hague (openly Anti-Semitic) are invites to podiums, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_NQt0gB-V4&t=5s

5) Why hate is being taught in Schools, https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7145843297142423552?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_groups_entity%3BJdSLw6CgS1%2BsOgvSksSanw%3D%3D

I am not against Jewish state, they can decide for themselves, but in my opinion they are being scapegoated again ( willingly)

https://www.amazon.com/Gaza-Inquest-into-Its-Martyrdom/dp/0520295714

https://www.amazon.com/Zionism-During-Holocaust-weaponisation-service/dp/1803693045

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/8/30/reappearing-the-disappeared-of-operation-condor

https://www.amazon.com/Zionism-Age-Dictators-Lenni-Brenner/dp/0985890991

https://www.amazon.com/Generals-Son-Journey-Israeli-Palestine/dp/1682570029

https://www.amazon.com/Hundred-Years-War-Palestine-Colonialism/dp/1250787653

https://aninjusticemag.com/how-zionists-became-the-new-nazis-5363d48906d5

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/11/5/why-israel-wants-to-erase-context-and-history-in-the-war-on-gaza

https://www.amazon.com/Ethnic-Cleansing-Palestine-Ilan-Pappe/dp/1851685553

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patria_disaster

https://www.amazon.com/Decolonizing-Israel-